Show Notes:

Guest Bio: Brady Goodwin Jr. (aka “Phanatik”) is a rapper, theologian, and teacher. He was a founding  member of the group “The Cross Movement”–which was considered the east coast originators of Christian hiphop–and has gone on to create a culturally relevant ethics course titled: “Hip Hop History and Ethics.” Brady is an expert on rhythm and rhyme, and the historical impact of Hip Hop on cultures throughout the world.

This culture that impacts almost every other culture. You can’t go anywhere in the world that’s not in some way, shape, or form impacted by what hip hop has brought.

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Verses Mentioned in Show:  

  • Psalm 90: 2 “Lord, you have been our dwelling place throughout all generations, even before the mountains were born, before you brought for the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting, you are God.”

Notes and Quotes: 

  • “It’s that sense of, that aesthetic, there’s beauty in the world, and a beauty that speaks to my soul and I can’t even really name it, but I know it when I see it. It was that.” 
  • “I grew up in church but church didn’t grow up in me.”
  • “Gospel means good news. I preached bad news to myself, be good or go to hell…” 
  • “When he rapped for me that day, the reason it changed my life was because I had never seen anybody where their faith and culture at the same time. Whether you were Christian, Muslim, whatever you were, I was so used to seeing people zip off their culture, and then zip on their faith when it was time for the ceremony or service, whatever. Then it was zip off their faith, and then time to go back out into the world, zip on their culture. This guy was wearing them both at the same time…”
  • “They’re explaining the gospel in between their songs. I’ve already memorized the lyrics, so I’m preaching to myself through their lyrics throughout the week.”
  • “‘Wait, the gospel is better than I thought it was and so it deserves a better attempt to tell it.” As my appreciation for the message grew, so did my attempt to tell it well.’
  • “Hip hop was very theological. When we were talking theology, we were battling that ideology. “
  • “The counterculture is a group within a group. Some people leave their culture, we said, ‘No, we’re not going to leave our culture. We’re going to be in side of the culture.’ If culture is a wheel spinning clockwise, the counterculture is another wheel inside that going counterclockwise. It’s in it trying to change the direction of it.”
  • We used to say Jesus is Lord of hip hop. If you look at hip hop culture, you would not get that impression, but when you look at our hip hop you would.
  • One of my favorite quotes is, “those who don’t know their past are doomed to repeat it.”
  • “There is continuity and discontinuity between hip hop as a movement and the movements that came before black power and civil rights.”
  • “This culture that impacts almost every other culture. You can’t go anywhere in the world that’s not in some way, shape, or form impacted by what hip hop has brought.”
  • “All the people in hip hop culture that have offered anything constructive, have always been people of some kind of faith, some kind of metaphysical worldview.”
  • “It’s put out there as if I have a right to be wrong. But there’s a history behind that. There’s a history behind why people feel like, “I have a right to be wrong.” It really ties back into because I’ve been wronged. Although we say two wrongs don’t make a right, it often feels like it does. It feels wait if I’ve been wronged, I now have a right to be wrong as well. There’s just a historical narrative there of, think about why bad means good.”
  • “But why does bad mean good? But then you trace that back to the African American experience. If somebody has run away from their slave master and captured and brought back, they’re told that they were bad. “Why are you being bad?” “Well, it didn’t feel bad. It felt like I was being good.” If what you call bad for me in this country, I feel as good, there’s a twisted ethic here.”
  • “The quote that’s attributed to King, “An unjust law is no law at all.” If that’s the system by which I’m forced to play, whereas whenever I do what feels good and righteous, you’re going to call that bad, then I don’t like what you call good.”
  • “Tupac says the war on drugs was a war on us. It wasn’t just a war on drugs, it was a war on the people who were painted as drug dealers and drug users. It was a way to talk race. Many sociologists and criminologist would say the war on drugs and that whole terminology was a way to talk race without seeming to be racial.”
  • “Hey, man, there’s a world of Christian Rap music. It’s raised generations of people in the faith, solid. I think that it’s a great tool that can be used in his discipleship.”
  • “CS Lewis has this thing in one of his novels where he talks about the artwork that people do in heaven. He paints this picture where it’s like, it’s so God focused and so God breathed, and so God oriented and so God inspired, that the artist doesn’t even put his or her name at the bottom of the work, because they just want all the credit to go God.”